The above abbreviated remarks by Dr Carter were made in December 2019. For a more recent (November 2020) and fullsome dialogue (41 minutes) between Dr. Carter and Roger Hallam, Co-Founder of Extinction Rebellion see 'We're looking at Billions of People not being able to Survive' at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VSE5ubpKhg where Dr. Carter expresses even sharper concerns about where we are on dealing with climate breakdown.